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(@jfleisher)
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@craighjohnsondds you might want to look at this link: https://my.automag.com/forum/postid/1761/


   
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(@pantera-mike)
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Posted by: @craighjohnsondds

Can someone please respond to my several emails and phone calls! Trying to get an update on my build. It has been over 2 years and no communication for a month. Thank you. Craig Johnson in Big Horn, WY

 

You’re wasting your time this week. Everybody is at the SHOT show in Las Vegas.

Hopefully they will call you next week. But I wouldn’t get too anxious—there are people who have been waiting WAY longer than you who still don’t have their guns yet….

 


   
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(@bob-cohee)
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Posted by: @craighjohnsondds

Can someone please respond to my several emails and phone calls! Trying to get an update on my build. It has been over 2 years and no communication for a month. Thank you. Craig Johnson in Big Horn, WY

Here is something I do not under stand.

Mike Bush is participating and responding to questions about shipments on a private Facebook Listing but no one has shown up on this Company Owned Forum or the Company's Facebook.

I do not participate in Facebook but happened on to this from a Google search.

  https://www.facebook.com/groups/199639243467872/?hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&multi_permalinks=5125188937579520&paipv=0&eav=AfYwZ07zYJEotMpSOv9DuzNMFqSlfZPKoe_u9LQ1-bgaKNSH-YN_sq1--Pqy8K7LVAg&_rdr

 


   
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(@hjsheppeard)
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@bob-cohee ,I'm not on FB either Bob,don't have time for that B/S


   
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(@jfleisher)
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Great. More updates on Facebook that are not reflected in their official forum…


   
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(@dodgeramcharger)
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@bob-cohee yeah, this not very reassuring, the Angled Spade website is still a dead end, no change from the original announcement. No answer to email, either. You would think that there would be some kind of information flow from them or Patrick if things were moving forward at all.


   
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(@bob-cohee)
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@dodgeramcharger 

I included Dr Johnson's quote in that post so hopefully he will get an email and come to this forum.  He has talked to Mike Bush and is satisfied with his order now.

If you read all of Mike Bush's comments in that Facebook you will see that Stryk Force has been fired and that is who was supposed to be handling the Marketing and Customer Information end of the business.  Sounds like no one is doing it now.

Why Bush does not come here and answer some questions is what I would like to know.


   
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(@dodgeramcharger)
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And then, after re-reading the Facebook remarks from Mike Bush, this whole relocation makes even less sense. If the guns were already starting to come out of Loris, why step backwards and move to CT, build a new facility and start over? I get that we've heard all the lines about not being able to get any qualified labor or supply chain, but if the parts were finally being produced in house, how can that still be a problem? If the actual problem was a lack of assemblers, why pick up and move the whole operation to a state where you have to build a new facility and start over from scratch, not to mention the way that state treats gun companies? Sounds like the better answer would have been to hire someone to assemble the guns in Loris. 


   
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(@426mopar)
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Does anyone know if Auto Mag was at shot show this year ?


   
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(@dodgeramcharger)
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@426mopar I saw a mention of them being there, but nothing else after that.



   
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(@johnnyfly)
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Hi everyone let me shed some light here i too purchase 2 auto mags paid in full i gave up after 3 years of to many setbacks and excuses i got my money back i also wanted one for over 30 years hes the funny thing that happened to me i live in ct i was at my gun shop picking up a gun when my buddy who works there shows me a photo taken a couple weeks ago of him holding a new automag i ask him were did he get that and he told me the  new owners had come in the store so im not sure there moving or being purchased from a company were i live i will keep you guys updated


   
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(@wcapps10363)
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I too got tired of waiting and have asked for a refund.  


   
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(@pantera-mike)
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Posted by: @wcapps10363

I too got tired of waiting and have asked for a refund.  

 

I really hope that AM’s piss-poor communication doesn’t create a ‘run on the bank’. This is such a noble endeavor and they deserve to succeed. But they sure aren’t doing themselves any favors with their almost complete lack of transparency.  The more answers they provide up front, unsolicited, the fewer questions would be asked and the greater confidence customers would have.  

Remember the days of monthly newsletters, and then later, their regular updates to this, their own information conduit?  That proves they know how to do it….

 


   
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(@426mopar)
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The lack of reassurance and updates is prompting me to pull the plug at this point.


   
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(@bob-cohee)
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Here is a post on an "Auto Mag Facebook" by someone I assume visits here.  I just copied and pasted it.  Mike Bush is a Principal in the Angled Spade Group heading upo production of the Auto Mags.

 

Mike Bush there is a great deal of confusion in the messaging getting out from you regarding company updates since you now seem to be the voice of the new Automag Ltd. Here you are communicating with customers on this non-official private Facebook group yet there is complete silence on the official Auto Mag Ltd. Facebook page. Even more troubling is the zero communication on the official forums set up by Patrick on the My.Automag.com website which was set up to be the "authoritative source" for all things Automag. There are many members there who do not use FB and are thoroughly discouraged at the lack of official company updates and understandably so. Your name is a new player in the Automag messaging after Patrick Henry and Rob Richardson have virtually gone silent in those forums.

 

Here is Mike Bush's reply.  

 

Mike Bush

Bruce ChristieThanks for reaching outBruce Christie. After speaking with a number of customers, digging deeply into various areas of failure over the course of many years and assessing the state-of-affairs in Loris, I don’t believe the confusion is in my messaging. “Official,” “unofficial,” “Patrick,” “Rob,” “forum,” “Facebook,” “telephone,” “website,” whatever; the fact remains that when there was communication over a period of time, were pistols being delivered? (the answer is yes, but around 10 to 13 per month, it’s been difficult to get a straight answer) Of the pistols shipped, how many had to be returned due to issues? Were these issues related to comments made in videos on the website about safety and reliability? Seems to me, the confusion started long before my involvement. Bottom line is, there’s an enormous mess to straighten out and there’s a crew of incredibly talented and well respected industry professionals working specifically for the group of people that have placed an order for an AutoMag pistol. I get it….people are upset and with good reason and adjustments/corrections have been made because of what it means to do the right thing. So much so that I’m responding to your post at 3:30am….because what you have to say is important to me. Will I be able to immediately satisfy everyone’s concerns and confusion? Realistically, no, I won’t. But has there been a crew working tirelessly since early October to get all this straightened out? Yes, there has. There are plenty of details that I could share to make all this make more sense, but that’s just drama. Instead, I think it’s best to continue to work on what it means to finally build a bad ass pistol. Thanks again, Bruce, and reach out anytime if you need anything.
 
 
It sounds as though Mike Bush has nothing to do with this method of responding to his customers for some reason, seems strange.

   
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