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(@radarluv55)
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@mrbiifmsn-com Good information and I appreciate your taking the time to provide it.  👍


   
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Posted by: @pantera-mike

This forum supports PDF attachments. Here, I will attach the original 1970s sales brochure as an example. 

Assuming it’s a success, Rob could easily post a PDF of the waiting list here, rather than waiting for an entire new website to be built?

 

I greatly appreciate the sentiment of advancing somebody on the list whose days are so severely numbered.  Hopefully he was able to get a bit of joy in his life that day….

 

That brochure is referred to as "The Aristocrat Brochure".

The gun pictured is XP-10 and the 357 Barrel is the first 357 barrel produced by Auto Mag.  Notice the 357 barrel is stenciled Pasadena, very rare.  

Here is a picture of the XP-10 and the 357 barrel recently.

 


   
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Posted by: @mrbiifmsn-com

@radarluv55 Don't know anything about this operation, but https://www.usafirearmscorp.com/ is home of the Wildey and they are claiming to be making that gun in .44 AMP.  Their listed phone number works and will take voicemails, for what it's worth.  Good luck!  (Personally, I'm waiting for Patrick's AutoMag)

I've been calling and leaving messages at USA Firearms for a Wildley for two years. No return calls.

 


   
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Posted by: @mrbiifmsn-com

@radarluv55 Don't know anything about this operation, but https://www.usafirearmscorp.com/ is home of the Wildey and they are claiming to be making that gun in .44 AMP.  Their listed phone number works and will take voicemails, for what it's worth.  Good luck!  (Personally, I'm waiting for Patrick's AutoMag)

I've been calling and leaving messages at USA Firearms for a Wildley for two years. No return calls.

 

The New Wildey Company was run out of a building where the owner has a screw machine shop and shared office staff.  They ran into financial problems through the Covid shutdown and ceased making firearms.

It is really too bad as they made a pretty good product.  I have one of their 12" - 475 pistols and an extra 12" barrel chambered for the 44 AMP.

Because of the magazine they use, the OAL of the 44 AMP needs to be 0.10" shorter than what is used in the Auto Mags.

 


   
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@pantera-mike sorry for the slow reply. I will be glad to do that. The biggest thing is I will need to scrub the personal data/information off of the list before posting. I will add it to my todo list and get it done.


   
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@robautomag

Your last reply is a great example of the frustrations that a lot of us have been feeling for some time now. 

The list was previously posted publicly on the website then subsequently it was removed under the manufacturing reorganization however the reorganization was then ultimately rolled back and operations were reinstated as they were before. So today, other than us being another 6 to 8 months down the road, we are in the same position as we were when the list was previously publicly published and available however now you are telling us that you can not post it again today because you need to "scrub the personal data/information off"?!?! Did some new data magically appear on the list that wasn't visible from before? Or perhaps this "personal data" simply didn't matter when it was previously posted? 

What this seems like is nothing more than the company not wanting to be transparent and/or held accountable for continued missteps, setbacks.  The fact is that it was actually an email that I sent to the company trying to hold them accountable for that after 3 months of being published there had been no updates made to the list at all. Therefor should we assume that no progress was being made? A question to which received no response however less than 3 hours after I sent the email the list was removed from publication. 

Fortunately for us I made a copy.   


   
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(@weeze13)
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It would seem that when I attempt to add a pdf of the list to the forum it says that "attachments of this type are not allowed". But I can add pictures of it. 


   
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the list I have is different than the one that was posted online. What I have is all your email, full name, real address, phone number, etc, from our whole production database. I will work on it and get it out asap.  @weeze13, I have talked to Patrick and your refund check will be in the mail by tomorrow.


   
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(@weeze13)
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@robautomag

Interesting tactic, considering I didn't actually ask for a refund.

I suspect this is simply your way of attempting to "make an example" out of someone that publicly speaks critically of the job and subsequent progress/results you and the company are making? Keep people from speaking their mind about the blatant mistreatment and overall incompetence and mismanagement that your customers have previously and continue to experience. Make people fearful that if they do speak up they will simply loose their place in line with nothing to show for it other than the knowledge of having provided the company a 36 month, $4500.00 interest free loan out of the goodness of our hearts.  

Actually come to think of it, can we truthfully even be called "customers"? To classify as a "customer" don't we actually have to receive some sort of goods/service from the company?  


   
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(@phenry3)
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@weeze13 You should never deal with a company that you feel that is incompetent, mistreats,lies and manipulates. I am doing you a favor to refund your money.


   
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@phenry3 Be sure to include the addition of a 7.25% interest premium or the past 2+ years in that refund.


   
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Ive gone through the list and removing all the personal data, any refunds, and already shipped guns by checking all the paper files. This is not 100 percent perfect list, but sometimes perfect is the enemy of good and wanted to get it out to you guys as quickly as possible. I tried to post it to the forum but I had trouble uploading it. I will see if I can upload it to dropbox and share the link here. (Edit-here is the link-Click here)

P.S we have  5 Auto Mags in the safe built from the parts kits we had on hand. So you can subtract at least 5 from the top of the list because they should be going out soon.

P.P.S the CNC that mills the frames is running. after we tested the program we milled 3 frames yesterday and we are training an operator to run it next week.

I hope you guys have a great weekend!


   
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(@mrbiifmsn-com)
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@robautomag YEA!!! Thank you Rob!  I see my name and order date are correct (but not sure about all of the "webxxx" people)  Hope this makes a lotta folks' day!  Please keep it up with periodic updates!  Thanks again!


   
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(@mrbiifmsn-com)
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I could not download the list so I took the liberty of copying to .xls, sequentially numbering, printing to PDF, and attaching here for you folks.  Hope the download works for you all!


   
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(@robautomag)
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@mrbiifmsn-com it might be a Dropbox setting. I will check once I am finished crossing off the list of things to do at the home front


   
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