@bob-cohee Thanks for posting the info and the link for RCBS dies..many people out there , paid BIG prices for the old ones out there . I myself own several sets and admittedly paid higher prices for some .Really like that the new sets are carbide !
@bob-cohee Thanks for posting the info and the link for RCBS dies..many people out there , paid BIG prices for the old ones out there . I myself own several sets and admittedly paid higher prices for some .Really like that the new sets are carbide !
In my opinion, I would not recommend a carbide sizing die for a tapered case like a 44 AMP. Lubing is not that big a deal to me when loading a round like a 44 AMP. It is not like a 9mm where you shoot the gun often and hundreds of rounds at a time.
I'm sticking with my old steel dies for the AMP's and I use Carbide for every thing else practially. I use a carbide die for the tapered 9mm cases and my reloads look like "coke bottles" and the sizing takes a lot of force.
@bob-cohee I agree with you . I am using my old dies they have not let me down …good results .Bob what do you think on the Hornady dies for 44 AMP ?
@bob-cohee I agree with you . I am using my old dies they have not let me down …good results .Bob what do you think on the Hornady dies for 44 AMP ?
I load for over 50 calibers and I have I think maybe three sets of Hornady dies and I do not like any of them.
That said, when I got my first AMP 25 years ago all that was available were Hornady dies so that is what I used and I got by. I finally bought another AMP and a set of RCBS dies came with it. I never used the Hornady dies again and recently sold them. I still can say that I have loaded more AMP rounds with the Hornady dies than RCBS.
I have some really nice and expensive 9mm taget pistols and there was a very good thread over al SIG Talk about carbide dies and tapered cases. The guys with the most experience and best reloading equipment seemed to recommend the Redding 9mm Titanium Carbide dies so I ordered a set today. I have been somewhat unhapopy with my 9mm hand loads for years, I hope they help.
@bob-cohee I reload about 15 or so calibers myself . I have found the 5.7x28 round for my Ruger 57 is a bit of a pain . Most handgun reloads I don’t have any issues , but always room for improvement ! I do 6.5 creedmoor and 350 Legend also 224 Valkyrie and have tried a lot of different dies ..even some Lee dies …looking at titanium carbide for 10 mm possibly
I ordered the new RCBS dies last night - I'm curious to see how they run.
I have a couple of the old sets - I'm wanting to see the difference and whether the carbide ring changes the dimensions of the cases or not.
I have a couple of the old sets - I'm wanting to see the difference and whether the carbide ring changes the dimensions of the cases or not.
Well, that’s what resizing is! Making a too-large case smaller. But what the carbide sizer dies is change a tapered case to a straight-walled case with a bulge at the bottom. The resultant round chambers easily and fire-forms to the chamber dimensions when fired. I’ve resized Starline cases literally dozens of times without any failures. They seem to be quite resilient.
@andyc I am in the same boat . I have several old sets and also curios on the newer set..mine will arrive Tuesday . When you try them out let us know !
I have a couple of the old sets - I'm wanting to see the difference and whether the carbide ring changes the dimensions of the cases or not.
Well, that’s what resizing is! Making a too-large case smaller. But what the carbide sizer dies is change a tapered case to a straight-walled case with a bulge at the bottom.
I know - my implication was excess dimensional-changes like that Hornady die. Who knows, because it's a carbide ring it may result in similar so I was a little leery about even ordering them, but I'm keen to find out.
I have a couple of the old sets - I'm wanting to see the difference and whether the carbide ring changes the dimensions of the cases or not.
Well, that’s what resizing is! Making a too-large case smaller. But what the carbide sizer dies is change a tapered case to a straight-walled case with a bulge at the bottom.
I know - my implication was excess dimensional-changes like that Hornady die. Who knows, because it's a carbide ring it may result in similar so I was a little leery about even ordering them, but I'm keen to find out.
Ah, I see. I recall the Hornady die was pretty brutal. It takes a hard look and time with dial calipers to see the results of resizing with a carbide die. Then, the top of the case expands to accommodate the bullet.
Here is a pic of a loaded round. If you look carefully at the top edge, you can see that it tapers inwards as it goes from top to bottom (left to right in this pic) until it swells again right at the base:
Putting a small light behind it greatly exaggerates the effect, as the light passing through the small gap between the case and the desk is reflected, making the gap appear much larger than it really is:
